MORE: Police speak directly to the unknown Delphi killer: 'Today could be the day -- sleep well'. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. His resemblance and suspicion could be a big break in the case. In the video, Taylors voice is compared to the voice released by law enforcement. Does this mean that Murder Victims Abigail and Liberty were murdered on February 14, 2017? As for the search being called off, I think it only began at 5.30pm and continued till very late in the night and a few relatives stayed on till the early hours. Was Law Enforcement told that The Murder Victims left The German-Patty Home under angry circumstances? When Ive been reading through the comments there has been one thing repeated over and over that the sketch/video looks/sounds like Libbys grandpa. John Taylor, Virginia, announced today on a You Tube program called From The Desk of Murtwitnessonelive that he telephoned the Chief of Police in Delphi, Indiana he did not provide the date of the call. The Father of Murder Victim Liberty German arrives at the "T Shape" intersection of the Entrance Trail and Leading Trail at 3:15pm. As far as I know "creepy guy" was never said by the girls. How often do locals go to the Delphi Bridge and photograph it? [18] In December 2021, the Indiana State Police announced the discovery of a fake social media account which had been uncovered during the course of the investigation into the murders. Due to this being an ongoing investigation, the Indiana State Police does not confirm or deny anyone who is or is not a suspect. A video taken by a local grandfather of the walk along the Monon High Bridge, recorded just under four months before the murders, shows just how precarious it is to walk on the structure. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Regarding the sketch of the suspect, Patty said, "I have features that resemble that. In my experience - Mothers and Fathers have about 5-10 seconds in regards to A Vanished Child before Maximum Consternation dominates. Only LE has that information, and they aren't unassing anything for our sakes at least not yet. LAS VEGAS, Nevada The grandfather of an Indiana teenager murdered five years ago is confident police will find her killer. Theres no need to be so condescending. No one was concerned that the Murder Victims went near the creek, one girl fell hitting her head, one girl injured herself trying to save her friend, they both drowned -- or were somewhere along the creek in desperate need of medical attention? We do not know, and, we have not been told. In other words, the lack of information could cause the murderer(s)sister/brother/mother/daughter unable to come to the correct conclusion upon inferring the circumstances. Libby's sister, Kelsi German, said she always felt the girls' killer must be someone familiar with the Delphi area, but she said she didn't want to believe the suspect "was right here among us.". Delphi murders: What we know about suspect Richard Allen as affidavit reveals he was on police radar in 2017. "People hear the title 'Women Talking' differently than they hear a title like '12 Angry Men,'" Polley said. by Pentagon Pedophile Task Force on June 26, 2021 at 9:37 P.M. Carter also taunted the suspect, calling him "a coward" and . Guys its not me. Theyve checked me out; I was at work. Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl stepped out of the spotlight and into a collapsible, acrylic canopy with his smoker, brisket and ribs over the weekend, barbecuing food for hundreds of hungry and unhoused people in Los Angeles. An undated handout photo shows Libby German of Delphi, Ind., who was murdered in Feb. 2017. Just a rumor. They were very polite and respectful. On her Instagram story, Brittany Mahomes shared a sweet photo of their son, who they named Patrick Bronze Lavon Mahomes III. Maybe she was on the trails, but not the bridge between 3 and 3:30 or maybe she was a little off in her estimate. The timeline of events for 2-12-17 could be extremely important. Melissa and Jason Diaz allege in their lawsuit, filed this week in Los Angeles, that the fertility clinic they used, HRC Fertility, has a "tragic pattern" of using genetic material like eggs, sperm and embryos "in a manner contrary to its patients' instructions" and concealed material information from its customers. To accuse him of such a horrific act based solely on the fact he looks similar to a sketch just seems outright ridiculous. In the story this came from it has the photo of Abby walking on the bridge, but it states "if you look closely, in the distance you can see a man approaching." The time Cheyenne Engles took her photo wouldn't be all that helpful except to point out a moment in time after 2:07pm when neither BG or the girls were not on the bridge together. Both flannel shirt guy and Cheyenne mentioned seeing a man and a women on/around the bridge. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Cheyennes time line according to all accounts I have read had her coming along 30 mins approx after the girls left with BG. This guy was so pissed off. Thats what I was thinking. Libby's grandfather, Mike Patty, added. A makeshift memorial for Abby Williams and Libby German next to a trail they were hiking the day they disappeared, Feb. 13, 2017, in Delphi, Indiana. John Miller, 59, of Fort Wayne, Indiana, was arrested in the 1988. Like I said, Im knew to the case and have only just started watching the videos so I apologise if the answer comes up in one of the videos explaining why people say it. Police still ask anyone with information to submit a tip at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. AP Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13,. Delphi Girls Murdered Libby German's grandfather reacts to police interview transcript and investigators' call for more information Mike Patty said it was "shocking" to learn that a potential suspect was talking with his granddaughter online before her death. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8yv9i8Dmp4, http://www.cityofdelphi.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=388&Itemid=269, http://nicheslandtrust.org/index.php/gus/, http://nicheslandtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/gusCropped.png. in the second half of the video they address this exact point and have a pretty plausible theory on how this could be, they use an infographic to show the movements. On April 27, 2021, Indiana State Police detectives named another suspect as a new person of interest in the Delphi murders. THE grandfather of a 13-year-old girl slain in the Delphi 'Snapchat murders' has warned her killer "you'll meet your maker."Eric Erskin told The Sun: . It seems as though the locations of the Delphi Monon High Bridge Trail Witnesses, Deer Creek Bridge Witnesses, Derrick German (Murder Victim Liberty German's Father), Murder Victim Abigail Williams, Murder Victim Liberty German, and The Delphi Murderer(s) have been both indistinct and vague. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. We committed a long time ago this day would come, he said of the arrest. It seems as though a thought such as "that is an easy place to encounter individuals that we have an apoplectic past with we will plan to go to the bridge when an adult can go with you girls how about going to the movies?". Plus, a man whose granddaughter died after he dropped her from a cruise ship deck is sentenced (50:12). "It was shocking to me," said Libby's grandfather, Mike Patty. Watching him in several interviews has raised my eyebrow.. but.. due to those that pee their pants over a narrative that differs from theirs.. that's all im saying.. https://www.youtube.com/user/themrkatt420/videos. Delphi resident, age 49 at the time of the crime, otherwise unremarkable person. Two young teens that simply decided the afternoon of Monday February 13, 2017 to ask "can we go to the Delphi Bridge?" Makes me wonder if BG was back in Cheyennes vicinity and Flannel shirt guy assumed they were a couple, but if that's the case why didn't Cheyenne see him?? The families also spoke of the difficulty faced in the early states of an investigation, where any of them could have been considered suspects, and the authorities had to investigate them to rule them out. The grandfather of Libby German, one of the victims of the 2017 Delphi slayings, says he is "hopeful" that an Indiana man recently charged with attempted mur. "For it to be one of us, it's hard.". A Father (appearing out of his mind with anxiety) asking in distress "have you seen two girls?" If the Delphi Bridge is being visited and photographed daily - it seems as though a murderer(s) would want to avoid a famous Historic location with photographers frequently pursuing it (the bridge). He's being held without bond and is set to return to court in January, McLeland said. Again, in regards to the above both has been stated as fact: Derrick did not walk to the Delphi Bridge, and, Derrick did walk to the Delphi Bridge. Jennifer Coolidge is hard to miss on the cover of W Magazine's latest Director's Issue. In January 2019, a rumor started that investigators believed 46-year-old Charles Eldridge, who was arrested for sex crimes against children in . I am immensely interested in your thoughts on this case. I think that there would be some sort of evidence pointing to the family member. Waiting for your permission to load facebook comments. Im aware how most cases go. He called the arrest a "step in the right direction. Carter urged the public to please continue offering tips, as the investigation is ongoing. Murder Victim Liberty German's father walks straight along the Entrance Trail to the Leading Trail. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The lawsuit claims mifepristone is not safe, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration didn't study it closely enough before it was approved. On July 17, a composite sketch of someone who, at that time in the . In a new interview with FOX New's Laura Ingle, Kelsi German and Becky Patty, Libby's grandmother, sat down with the FOX News Senior Correspondent to talk about the tragic murder of 14-year-old . Still, the voice of the suspected killer . Its been 3 years, if it was her grandpa surely theyd have arrested him by now. This guy was so pissed off. I spoke to the Delphi police chief for an hour. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Why has Grandma only now got this important detail straightened out with Derrick. The rule, which makes it easier for retirement plan managers to consider climate change and other environmental, social and governance principles in their investment decisions, has been dubbed "woke" by congressional Republicans who argue it unfairly penalizes certain industries like oil and gas. Wasn't that determined to be a barrier? Yet, divided in death -- if it is true that Murder Victim Liberty German had 5 or more times to escape it seems as though her wish would have been to share a "Day of Death" with Murder Victim Abigail Williams. He's being held without bond and is set to return to court in January, McLeland said. "I spoke to the Delphi police chief for an hour. Opposing facts regarding Cheyenne have also been stated. It happens in almost every single true crime video. Was it a a Youtubers guess, or was the Youtuber repeating something he heard? Also, when did Murder Victim Liberty German's mobile begin going straight to voicemail? Last Updated: October 31, 2022, 12:55 PM ET. That's how he describes learning that someone using the social media profile "anthony_shots" had been talking online with his granddaughter before her death. For the most part it appears as though as the public has a certain image of the Murder Victims. On 2-13-17 we know of at least 2 individuals photographing the bridge. Abby Williams (L), Libby German (R). Police arrest suspect in 2017 Delphi murders. Hes going through the worst thing a parent/grandparent ever could and to be accused of the person who did it, well its just evil and cold. I think there was an early rumour that they thought the girls may have walked off to relatives, but I think close family knew something was very wrong, but you never know with teenage girls they can be unpredictable, but there may have been some early rumours that Libby may have taken off before, but as I say these are all old rumours. Inherent single mindedness of: You Will Help Me Find My Child(ren) rules both emotions and actions. It seems so random to me. Nobody lives in total isolation in today's world, and I'm asking that person: please help us out." . Hi LyonPirkey Thankyou for your input, it certainly made interesting reading!! Directed by Academy Award nominees Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert, the "Coolidge vs. Haute Squad 5: Attack on Neo Runway City - Jennifer Reborn" editorial shoot has Coolidge in a variety of big, bold looks as we've never seen her before. The grandfather was the first to notice that they weren't there anymore and had gone missing. They just would not stop answering their phones. And they dont even handle that murder case. The arrest of a suspect nearly six years after the teens' killings drew international attention. Their bodies were found a day after they were reported missing. "You have a say in your kids' education, not government and not telling you what to do," McCarthy said in his remarks. A CVS spokesperson said in a statement, We are shocked and saddened to learn that one of our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes. There is ONE MAN between Timothy Holmseth and President Trump. I didnt think it was true, I was just wondering if there was something in his past or something he had done that made so many fixate on him. In that first sketch, shown below, detectives say the man's hat was changed to make his facial features more recognizable. We're free to draw our own conclusions but its crucial that one remain within the parameters of the truths dug up by people who dedicate their time chasing down the facts - and within the parameters of common sense. Taylors obsession with Delphi murder case, and his aggressive assertions that an investigative journalist gathering evidence or reporting on the case is going to be charged with a felony is curious, if not flat-out suspicious. Mike Patty, Libbys grandfather, and several of his family members spoke about the case at CrimeCon in Las Vegas over the weekend. -- Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to . Mike Patty said it was "shocking" to learn that a potential suspect was talking with his granddaughter online before her death. Derrick phones his Daughter, Murder Victim Liberty German, en route (driving to the trails) at 3:10pm presumingly leaving a message saying something such "I am almost at the trail." Just so you know, the "creepy guy" comment has been debunked. EastIdahoNews.com, LLC. . The two trains that crashed into one another were running on the same line for 12 minutes, and a distance of about 11 miles, Greek state TV said Wednesday. The new trial date will be set during the June bail hearing. Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 and is being held at the White County Jail, officials said. The majority of comments here are wonderfully written, informative, and thought provoking. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Plus they wouldnt have felt the need to start videoing or if it was him and he was acting weirdly surely shed have said grandpa what are you doing as its obvious the video was done to capture the random man acting strangely and for there to be evidence of it, I thought the original sketch favored the grandfaee and the second sketch favored a family member named CP. This week, there was a new call from investigators, asking for anyone who may have had contact with anthony_shots on the social media dating app Yellow - or Yubo - which has been described as "Tinder for teens.". I have not seen media interview the individuals Murder Victim Liberty German's Father met with when running errands for his mother (on 2-13-17 before arriving to pick up his daughter Murder Victim Liberty German and friend Murder Victim Abigail Williams). I was simply asking if there was anything else apart from the fact he looked similar to the sketch. So were talking roughly 3:07pm-ish. In order to clinch the gold medal spot, Brookes, who is British, delivered a history-making second run and executed the first-ever cab 1440 double grab -- four full frontside rotations while grabbing the board -- completed in a women's snowboarding competition. You mentioned lack of info about what the girls were doing before the bridge and its my understanding that the Grandma said they were filing documents for her and practicing softball at the Grandmas house when they asked if they could go to the Bridge, she told them only if they could get a ride there and back. At the Leading Trail, Historic Delphi Trail Hikers can either take a Left, Right, Continue Straight. For law enforcement to not panic when they were notified around 5:30pm 2-13-17 -- The Murder Victims' Family (Families / Family Member) must have given Law Enforcement a certain type of account that would allow Law Enforcement to believe "the girls are just being unruly teens." On Wednesday, officials held a news. We know that Derrick arrived at the entrance to the trail at around 3:15pm. So she was at the bridge after flannel shirt guy left and a good hour after the girls. Its now like what, 3 years later and still LOADS of people are saying it. It seems as though Law Enforcement could easily "grid" the locations of the witnesses, and, murder victims with estimated times for public view. The latest: Delphi murder suspect wants case moved at least 150 miles from Carroll County. The aunt brought in pictures of Libby to print for her funeral and said Allen didn't charge her for them. Best friends Libby and Abby were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in the middle of the day on Feb. 13, 2017. People at the trail around 3:15pm were allegedly as follows: an unidentified couple, Plaid Shirt Guy, Cheyenne (assuming she hadn't left by then), and Derrick. He then turned around as he walked north via U-Turn (making sure no one was coming) and came back across the bridge heading south where his pic was taken. Cause of death in Delphi murders still unknown, but document links Richard Allen to scene Officers transport murder suspect Richard Allen during a hearing regarding sealed documents,. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8yv9i8Dmp4. Taylor did not elaborate on what he and the police chief talked about for an hour. Stop this nonsense. DELPHI, Indiana -- A Delphi, Indiana, man, Richard Allen, has been arrested for the 2017 murders of eighth graders Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter announced at a news conference Monday. It is not. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That's the legal opinion of Indiana Public Access Counselor Luke Britt, who was critical of how Indiana State Police handled a request for information about Allen's arrest. I believe she told LE she was according to all reports i have read. They would not decide to hide in the woods avoiding any person searching for them. Viola Ford Fletcher, 108, and Hughes Van Ellis, 102, are the oldest African Americans to be granted citizenship in Ghana. I figured this was the best place to ask. The prosecutor would not say when Allen became a suspect or if he knew Abby or Libby. Brittany and Patrick Mahomes baby boy has reached a milestone - he's 3 months old. A couple has filed a lawsuit against a California-based fertility clinic alleging the clinic transplanted an embryo with a cancer mutation during in vitro fertilization, despite the couple specifically cautioning against it. Becky Patty and Mike Patty, grandmother and grandfather of Libby German. Derick did not walk to the Delphi High Bridge. Murder Victim Liberty German's father Derrick makes a second phone call at 3:13pm to his (Derrick's) daughter's mobile. ", Michael Patty has had to deal with being considered a suspect moreso than the other family members. The family of Libby German says they were surprised to learn the Delphi teenager was talking online with a potential suspect in her death. McLeland said it's "concerning" to him that Allen is a local Delphi resident. However, in mid February, 2018, investigators announced Nations was not a suspect in the Delphi murders. It wasn't just one or two comments, there were 10/20+ per video. The majority of those killed were between the ages of 20 and 30 years old, Roubini Leontari, the chief coroner of the general hospital in Larissa, Greece, told Greek state TV. The 16-year-old freestyle snowboarder became the youngest ever snowboarding world champion in Bakuriani on Monday. Terms of Use | The eyes of America were on this case, Carter said, because Delphi -- a wonderful community -- is like so many other American towns. DEWINE & STATE OF OHIO], U.S. CONGRESS HAS RECEIVED JESSIE MARIE CZEBOTARS PETITION TO APPEAR AND TESTIFY [READ IT HERE]. Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter said the investigation is ongoing. The path that the killer forced the girls to march down near Delphi, Indiana in February, 2017. The Tacoma-Pierce Health Department said the unidentified woman hasn't complied with several court orders filed since January 2022. They pictures Cheyenne took have a time stamp of around 3:40. Again, we have not been told why the case of two Missing Teenage Girls was easily dismissed on the evening of 2-13-17. Mr. X: The main suspect in the case. Or BG came from the south. The officer, who was on the force for five years, succumbed to his injuries at Mt. The pair are shown meeting in an elevator, and getting increasingly -- and eventually intimately -- closer as the sneak peek builds to a crescendo: When Amanda Peet, playing Jackson's wife, Beth, "introduces" Dan to Alex in their home. The next day, police found the girls' bodies near the Delphi Historic Trail,. One last thing you made me think of, was if Derrick was ringing Libbys phone twice and it went to ansaphone at 3.10 and 3.13 approx, its my belief that a phone rings for awhile before ansaphone picks it up, how come on a still and silent day Cheyenne or Flannel shirt guy didn't hear the phone ringing as it doesent sound like it was turned off at that stage or maybe it was, we just don't know. Thank you for your answer! Imagine if you were on the trail that day. Police announced they have arrested Richard Allen from Delphi, Indiana, for the 2017 murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. DID THE DEPLHI CHIEF OF POLICE SPEAK TO ONE OF THE KILLERS? Indiana State Police He even once processed photos at the CVS for Libby's family, her grandmother told reporters, and creepily, posters about the murdered girls were. DELPHI, Ind. For nearly five years, Mike Patty has carried the weight of not knowing who killed his granddaughter, Libby German, and her friend, Abby Williams, on a nature trail in Delphi in February 2017. [19] An explosive device was found in a checked piece of luggage at Pennsylvania's Lehigh Valley International Airport on Monday, according to a criminal complaint. At 1.35 pm the girls were dropped off by Kelsi German, at a trailhead on County Road 300 North, west of the Hoosier Heartland Highway. If theyd been older and married, it wouldve been their husbands people would be pointing a finger at. Libby's sister, Kelsi German, said she always felt the girls' killer must be someone familiar with the Delphi area, but she said she didn't want to believe the suspect "was right here among us.". Right away, detectives say they started looking into a possible connection between Bill and Peggy's 2011 murder and the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana in 2017. It is not immediately known why Taylor, who is from the state of Virginia, was ever interested in the Delphi murder case in the first place. With Cheyenne, Plaid Shirt Guy and the couple being in the vicinity of the bridge prior to Derrick arriving, we can say that there were four people on that part of the trail before 3:15pm - but we don't have any of their arrival times. Mike Patty, Liberty's grandfather, said on this broadcast: "Somebody knows something. The killings devastated Delphi. "For it to be one of us, it's hard." German said she visited her sister's grave on Sunday to talk to her about the updates in the case. Libby's grandfather, Mike Patty, added. Libby's Grandpa. The prosecutor would not say when Allen became a suspect or if he knew Abby or Libby. Im fairly new to the case and have recently started to watch YouTube videos about the investigation. 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