The move, which takes effect immediately, comes as insulin makers continue to face pressure from members of Congress and advocacy groups to lower the cost of the lifesaving medication. But answer me this. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. What? Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. Your email address will not be published. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Richard Allen, the suspect arrested in Oct. 2022 in connection with the murders of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in Delphi, Indiana. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. That can only mean one thing. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. Not sure why that is. (WPTA/WNDU) - Documents have been released in the Delphi murders case, but questions about the evidence and how Abby Williams and Libby German died remain. Im not stupid. Tuesday 27 December 2022 22:58 Bodycam footage from night of Idaho murders A University of Idaho professor has filed a lawsuit against a woman who baselessly linked her to the brutal murders. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. He was very fearful and it really hit him hard how he got treated on that Reddit sub. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? Thanks, Mike! Dorian Belecamus, a beautiful and bewitching archaeology professor, sees an opportunity to do more than dig into the past: this is her chance to seize control of her country's futureby becoming the Oracle of Delphi . If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. Senior high school: First years unknown but graduated from Delphi High School in 1984-85. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Meanwhile, there are more questions since the court documents did not reveal the cause of death for Abby and Libby. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). That is when they discovered Klines fake anthony_shots profile, soliciting minor girls online. Wheres the rest of it? I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. Apparently. 4 A figure was seen walking on the abandoned railroad bridge that Libby German and Abigail Williams had visited Credit: Indiana State Police 4 So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. We would say it is low. Also note that LE are now acting like they think the young catfish did the crime, not the older BG. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! Thats very embarrassing. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable One of them was Paul Etter. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. CDP CDP+ Delphi DS150 Delphi DS150E with Autocom 2014. The sigs are from the FBI and a court official. Join Nancy Grace for her new online video series designed to help you protect what you love most your children. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. Consequently, the accuracy of our statements should go up a lot too. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! The motive was sexual. Before the shooting, police believe a silver . before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? One of the girls, likely sensing danger, recorded the mans voice on her cellphone. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. Why didnt he pull up to his front door? Too much points to them to be coincidence. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Indiana Packers workboots go up to knee-high, and they are waterproof. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. DAs require a very high standard of evidence to bring a homicide charge against someone. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. We also dont know the name of the hotel or motel that they stayed in. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. Hopefully justice will be served. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Busy location with a diner nearby. Thank you I came here after being directed to you. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Abigail J. (Mugshot source: Indiana State Police) So hes a murderer. Ages approximate. . It's been five years since the Delphi murders shook an Indiana town, and family says they're still holding out hope that the case will be solved. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. Updated: 7:18 PM EST December 20, 2021. Also its very hot here and all I feel like doing is sleeping all the time. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. Is that also speculation? Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. What? The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! If he had those objects found at the crime scene in his truck, he could have easily carried them down to the crime scene and used them to stage it with the objects. It is on the girls cellphones, but if you listen to it, you will just hear a bunch of unintelligible garble. I will say that Libbys birth mother has also dealt with her loss by turning rageful. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. On and on. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. The girl could well have been his high school freshman girlfriend. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Almost zero. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. The gun failed the tests and was returned to the home. An officer confronted Kline about knowing that Libby was at a sleepover the night before her disappearance and communicating with her. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. Since then, theyve been poring through thousands of tips. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth . Not sure of the significance here. In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. Something to think about. I believe Mr. X is the guy. I was never aware that anyone had any good evidence against this harmless-looking fellow. Sources I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. If you know who did this crime please contact one of the following resources: e-Mail: Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com Tip Line: (844) 459-5786 Indiana State Police: (800) 382-7537 Carroll County Sheriff: (765) 564-2413 The state has to prove it. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. Indeed, he has been questioned and he is cooperating fully with the investigation. . What that has to do with anything is not known. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. How do I do this? Always. This has helped me a lot. He has connections with current LE officers. I really dont see a motive for RL. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. There are 244 comments there. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. Currently, no arrests have been made, and the investigation continues. Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! Im fooling the cops, ha ha! is the thinking. These are mostly hate sites. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. Please email if you do not want to reply here. Otherwise why do we have religions? The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. The two girls were on a hiking trail when they were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Relationship with older daughter and stepson: Unknown. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. The only reason his wife would be coming to the site to retrieve his keys is if he lost his keys and she was coming to deliver a spare set. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. 242? No. In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. You just dont know what a person is capable of. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. This is what happened. This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. 14) For more, see video, though this is the gist of it. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. Police: Umm you had told investigators umm and I know you say you dont remember a girl that you ever talked to but I know you remember Liberty German? They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? and our Thanks. Only a deer kit looks just like that. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Welcome to the site! Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. is that creepy guy still following us?. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. The few times Ive brought him up myself (this is really on Reddit) I have been ripped apart for my apparent stupidity. Did he eat? In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Your critiques are not even making sense. Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. Its true by process of elimination. A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970s. The Delphi Murders were committed by a coward a small man who can only feel big when he instills fear in others but he is an organized coward. Amazing work! You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. Is that also speculation? We doubt if she did contact his wife. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. A police chief in Martinez accused the man of committing these crimes, and the man sued the city and won $50,000. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. http://whatsnewlaporte.com/2014/02/24/cold-case-killing-of-linda-weldy-10-still-waiting-to-be-solved-can-you-help/, https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. He may be watching the coverage of this case . Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. If he left, LE might tow it or search it. I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. BG is a 50 year old man and the three other men are younger, age 17-26. The bodies of the two friends were found the next day, about . Please help me out here. The truth is that some of the things LE said in that conference are true. PERU, Ind. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? This is getting ridiculous. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. See? They werent that close. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. They think he did it, but as far as real, good, hard evidence that will stand up in court, theres not a lot there. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). He went away for a bit and came back a while later with proof from LE that some of the things we have been reporting as rumors here are absolute fact. I must have the wrong name for your POI? He stayed to guard his truck. There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG I think BG was a teenagerWhat if BG escaped on a hand glider?What if BG is dead?What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?What if BG is really a woman in drag?What if BG is Mafia hitman?Bla bla bla bla.. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. I saw this being explained in some YT comments to a bunch of brainlets. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. - The murders of Abby Williams and Libby German have remained unsolved since that fateful day in February 2017, when the girls went for a walk on the historic trails of Delphi and never came. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. Its a farce! But we are not naming person. This KAK guy simply got messed up in sending sexual videos to underage teenage girls and collecting the same from them. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. RL couldnt have done it because he was violating the terms of his probation and was caught on camera drinking in a pizza parlor. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. Easy, they were lying! I thought nobody looked like the BG in the actual video than PB (especially compared to that FB image with a deer)But now, not a chanceKirts fits that mofo better than allIts in the cheeks, the spit, etcThe cops have known for a while its him too I think. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. Can you email me with her name, please? Ive never heard about all these details this is crazy. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. I am 100% behind you. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. FSG knew everyone in town. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. But how could they possibly know this? How many times has he been cleared? The documents state that the wound to one of the girls was so brutal that the blood splatter would have been dramatic, drenching the killers clothes in blood. Theres no evidence that Tony Kline has ever been a suspect or has ever been interviewed by the police. Its odd how there is that other photo of what looks like BG sitting on park bench. He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. Robert, have you heard that Mr X had a deer blind on the Mears property? The one thing I cannot do is help him get away with his crimes, that is, be an accessory. Nobody has been arrested in the case but details have slowly been revealed about. She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? Privacy Policy. Shameful. Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. In addition, we may have more documents. By Freyja Catton. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. All rights reserved. Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! Let me jump in here. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. But I see the home is raised. Thats because he was competition. Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. Now he says he never saw BG at all. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. I dont know if they were part of the search parties. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. Like a coward, we would add. For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. I am hoping this will possibly fit with somone elses knowledge and it will be helpful. Highly functioning drunk; its the only way he can appear normal. Im getting, at the home!. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. We have 250 members in our group. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? But they used experts to clean it up with fancy software and groups of experts got together to try to figure out what was being said. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. 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